Anyone recognise this ....

[r***@blaksley.com]

On a Bend [?] between three (starlings?) [?] two in chief one in base ,
three escallops.
www.bladeborn.com/graphics/starlings.jpg
The Arms are alleged to be for a person called Frade, but I can find no
mention of a Frade in Burke's, and the motto doesn't appear in Elvin's.
I think 'Frade' is a German/Dutch name, and suspect these arms to be
European, not English. Anyone else got a guess?
Richard.
___________________________
Richard A. Williams
Oriel College
University of Oxford

I have no idea how old this thread might be, but my family name is Blaksley and the Chough is the crest from our family Coats of Arms.

[Andrew Chaplin]

Post by r***@blaksley.com

On a Bend [?] between three (starlings?) [?] two in chief one in base
, three escallops.
www.bladeborn.com/graphics/starlings.jpg
The Arms are alleged to be for a person called Frade, but I can find
no mention of a Frade in Burke's, and the motto doesn't appear in
Elvin's. I think 'Frade' is a German/Dutch name, and suspect these
arms to be European, not English. Anyone else got a guess?

I have no idea how old this thread might be, but my family name is
Blaksley and the Chough is the crest from our family Coats of Arms.

Google Groups shows that Richard Williams first posted about it on 20 Jan
2002, and no one--until you--had responded to it since the 25th of that
month.

Is Blaksley English surname in your case? If so, then stand by for some
stronly held views on the notion of "family Coats of Arms."

[Tim Powys-Lybbe]

Post by Andrew Chaplin

Post by r***@blaksley.com

On a Bend [?] between three (starlings?) [?] two in chief one in
base , three escallops.
www.bladeborn.com/graphics/starlings.jpg
The Arms are alleged to be for a person called Frade, but I can
find no mention of a Frade in Burke's, and the motto doesn't
appear in Elvin's. I think 'Frade' is a German/Dutch name, and
suspect these arms to be European, not English. Anyone else got a
guess?

I have no idea how old this thread might be, but my family name is
Blaksley and the Chough is the crest from our family Coats of Arms.

Google Groups shows that Richard Williams first posted about it on 20
Jan 2002, and no one--until you--had responded to it since the 25th of
that month.
Is Blaksley English surname in your case? If so, then stand by for
some stronly held views on the notion of "family Coats of Arms."

I am a positively delighted adherent of family coats of arms.

Only last night I was poring through some documents and found a Royal
Licence held within the College of Arms where it explicitly referred in
the licence to a permission to allow the Mr Brown to use his family coat
of arms in quarters 2 and 3. The licence was to change him to Trotter.

The fascinating thing is that he did not have any arms, nor did his
father or grandfather. But I did recently find that a first cousin had
a few years previously also done a name change but this time it was by
Lyon and changed his name from Brown to Hamilton. His Brown arms were
also in quarter 2 and 3 with Hamilton, of a sort, in 1 and 4. So family
arms are whatever any relation of yours might have had, they do not have
to have descended from a male line ancestor.

Having changed his name to Trotter, Mr Brown then went to Lyon and got a
matriculation of Brown on its own for the first time a month after the
Royal Licence had been initialled in London.

The various events are in the Scotland's People listing of the Lyon
Register and in Foster's Grantees of arms, Vol 2.

My delight is because my grandmother was a sole heir to the first Mr
Brown so I can quarter the Brown, and the Trotter, arms.