Real, self styled, copy or just fake? Continued.

[Martin Goldstraw]

Real, self styled, copy or just fake?

http://grandprincekiev.com/index.html

Martin

[Turenne]

Post by Martin Goldstraw
Real, self styled, copy or just fake?

Great find Martin!

Ordre de Legion d’Honneur, (Slovak Republic)!!

As far as his other claims are concerned, my Russian is a bit rusty :)

I can find no reference to a "Grand Prince MYKHAYLO KARATCHEVSKYI-VOVK" anywhere. In fact, the title "Grand Prince" is a new one on me..

That said, there is no reason why he shouldn't be a descendant of Ruric; there are plenty of them around.

RL

[Martin Goldstraw]

Post by Turenne

Post by Martin Goldstraw
Real, self styled, copy or just fake?

Great find Martin!
Ordre de Legion d’Honneur, (Slovak Republic)!!
As far as his other claims are concerned, my Russian is a bit rusty :)
I can find no reference to a "Grand Prince MYKHAYLO KARATCHEVSKYI-VOVK" anywhere. In fact, the title "Grand Prince" is a new one on me..
That said, there is no reason why he shouldn't be a descendant of Ruric; there are plenty of them around.
RL

A Google search for the body which "confirms" his genealogy the
Noblissime Acadamie Des Blasons resolves to one site and one site
alone ... his own!

Martin

[Odysseus]

In article
<75dcafb5-89d9-4f13-aa5a-***@r9g2000yqi.googlegroups.com>,
Martin Goldstraw <***@yahoo.com> wrote:

[http://grandprincekiev.com/index.html]

Post by Martin Goldstraw
A Google search for the body which "confirms" his genealogy the
Noblissime Acadamie Des Blasons resolves to one site and one site
alone ... his own!

The domain registration appears to have expired already.

[Martin Goldstraw]

Post by Odysseus
In article
[http://grandprincekiev.com/index.html]

Post by Martin Goldstraw
A Google search for the body which "confirms" his genealogy the
Noblissime Acadamie Des Blasons resolves to one site and one site
alone ... his own!

The domain registration appears to have expired already.
--
Odysseus

Thankfully the very useful "Internet Archive" has captured the site.
See:
http://web.archive.org/web/20110202182122/http://grandprincekiev.com/

Regards,
Martin

[Derek Howard]

Post by Martin Goldstraw
Thankfully the very useful "Internet Archive" has captured the site.
http://web.archive.org/web/20110202182122/http://grandprincekiev.com/

Therein he claims to be, amongst other things: "President, L’Universite Libre des Sciences de l’Enterprise at de Technologies de Bruxelles".
This body has a web site at
http://www.ulsetuniversite-edu.org/eng/index.php

It claims:
"It is a non-profit university (it is a AISBL established under the protection of the legislation of Kingdom of Belgium, with Royal Decree Nº 6/CH/15223/S ).Therefore:
We have no interest in being a common community, but rather an elite one. We concentrate on the quality rather than the quantity of our members.
We specialize in business sciences and technologies, e.g. space technology, chosen for the sustainable progress of population and the improvement of the quality of life. But without ignoring general studies, humanities, juridical sciences, education, philosophy, history and what we refer to as “the study of reality”(as it is and not as we would like it to be) where quantum physics is seen as the new frontier.
...
If you agree with this you can enter. If not it would be better to not waste your time. Thank you."

But it does admit that:
"Welcome to Université Libre des Sciences de l’Entreprise et des Technologies de Bruxelles “ ULSETB”(a.i.s.b.l.) an university of international reach that extends from old Europe to the entire world, contributing to the development of culture and the advancement of knowledge, and about which you need to know.
It does not belong to the European System of Higher Education. Our academic activity is as well represented in Associated Centers as it is in distance learning, and extends selectively beyond the European Union.
Its degrees, diplomas and certificates are private, and cannot be used professionally and do not enjoy official validation or government backing.
Its academic grades are granted in recognition of effort, personal merit and application to the studies as demonstrated by its students.
If you agree with this you can enter. If not it would be better to not waste your time. Thank you."

AISBL means "association internationales sans but lucratif". However, no such body as ULSETB aisbl nor L’Universite Libre des Sciences de l’Enterprise at de Technologies de Bruxelles appears registered or even mentioned since 2003, according to a search of the official gazette - the Moniteur Belge. The names Karatchevskyi and Vovk do not occur in the MB (other than one film related chap of the second name). And Royal Decrees are not refered to in this way but rather by date - for instance "l'arrêté royal du 22 aout 2012" or "Koninklijk besluit ....van 22 augustus 2012". In short ULSETB seems to be a somewhat suspicious body to be avoided at all costs.

To keep this heraldic, I note that the ULSETB displays arms on their home page including the European flag in the first quarter (no doubt without permission); the Belgian flag in the fourth quarter (again no doubt without permission); and above the shield a royal crown (again without authority)
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Derek Howard

[Joseph McMillan]

Post by Martin Goldstraw
Real, self styled, copy or just fake?
http://grandprincekiev.com/index.html
Martin

The Order of St. Stanislaus is also a giveaway.

JM