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Pre-American Heraldry: Arms of the Dutch Patroons
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Edward
2007-05-14 02:55:06 UTC
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Does anyone have information regarding the arms of the Dutch
Patroons?

Notable Dutch-American patroonships included:

Stephanus Van Cortlandt - Cortlandt Manor 85,000 acres
Frederick Philipse - Philipsburg Manor in Sleepy Hollow
Philipse Pieterse Schuyler - Schuyler House in Albany
Cornelis Melyn on Staten Island
Adriaen van der Donck - Colen Donck of Yonkers
Robert Livingston - Livingston Manor 160,000 acres

Source: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Patroon
Joseph McMillan
2007-05-18 10:52:32 UTC
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Post by Edward
Does anyone have information regarding the arms of the Dutch
Patroons?
Stephanus Van Cortlandt - Cortlandt Manor 85,000 acres
Argent the four wings of a windmill conjoined saltirewise Sable voided
Gules between 5 estoiles placed crosswise of the last. Crest: An
estoile Gules between two wings displayed, the dexter argent the
sinister Sable. Motto: Virtus sibi munus. (Seal of Olof Van
Cortlandt who came to New Netherlands 1636)
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Frederick Philipse - Philipsburg Manor in Sleepy Hollow
Azure a demi-lion Sable ducally gorged Argent and ducally crowned Or.
Crest: A lion Azure gorged with a viscount's coronet. (Bookplate of
Frederik Philipse)
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Philipse Pieterse Schuyler - Schuyler House in Albany
Vert issuing from a dexter cloud proper a cubit arm in fess vested
Azure holding on the hand a falcon close all proper. Crest: A hawk
close proper. (Plate made before 1650; a memorial window at the Dutch
Church in Albany has the arm issuing from sinister)
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Cornelis Melyn on Staten Island
No information
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Adriaen van der Donck - Colen Donck of Yonkers
No information
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Robert Livingston - Livingston Manor 160,000 acres
Quarterly, 1st and 4th grand quarters Argent 3 gilly-flowers Gules
within a tressure flory counterflory Vert; 2nd grand quarter
quarterly, 1st and 4th Gules on a chevron Argent a rose between two
lions passant of the field (Hepburn), 2nd and 3rd Azure three martlets
Or; 3rd grand quarter Sable a bend between six billets Or
(Callender). Crest: A ship of 3 masts topsails set. Motto: Spero
meliora. (Bookplates of Robert R. Livingston of Clermont, Edward
Livingston, Maturin Livingston, etc.) Variant quarterings exist.

Joseph McMillan
Edward
2007-05-20 05:42:18 UTC
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Joseph,

Helpful as always. Thank you. Presumably these arms are still borne
by members of the family. In understand that the windmill symbolizes
New York City/State, but do not know the exact reference. Was it
simply that windmills were/are common in The Netherlands and New York
was previously known as New Amsterdam or is there something more to
it?

Regards,

Edward
Turenne
2007-05-22 21:57:11 UTC
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Post by Edward
Joseph,
Helpful as always. Thank you. Presumably these arms are still borne
by members of the family. In understand that the windmill symbolizes
New York City/State, but do not know the exact reference. Was it
simply that windmills were/are common in The Netherlands and New York
was previously known as New Amsterdam or is there something more to
it?
Regards,
Edward
I just found this, which may be of interest:-

http://www.ngw.nl/int/usa/newyork.htm

Richard L
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2018-08-19 15:00:17 UTC
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Post by Edward
Joseph,
Helpful as always. Thank you. Presumably these arms are still borne
by members of the family. In understand that the windmill symbolizes
New York City/State, but do not know the exact reference. Was it
simply that windmills were/are common in The Netherlands and New York
was previously known as New Amsterdam or is there something more to
it?
Regards,
Edward
Hi Edward,
My understanding is that the windmill incorporated in the NYC emblem was adopted from the VC arms rather than the other way around.

Regards,
Joe

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