Dictionary of British Arms: Medieval Ordinary Volume IV

[Rock Vacirca]

Does anyone have any idea when the Dictionary of British Arms: Medieval Ordinary Volume IV is going to be published?

Back in mid-July when I pre-ordered mine from Amazon, they said the anticipated publication date was the 1st August. Well August has come and gone and now Amazon are saying they have no new date.

[Tim Powys-Lybbe]

Post by Rock Vacirca
Medieval Ordinary Volume IV is going to be published?
Back in mid-July when I pre-ordered mine from Amazon, they said the
anticipated publication date was the 1st August. Well August has come
and gone and now Amazon are saying they have no new date.

Some years ago, when we were all awaiting volume 3, I wrote to the
Society of Antiquaries and asked what they knew of volumes 3 and 4 (for
good measure). They replied that volume 3 was expected in a year or so
and volume 4 perhaps a year after that.

Volume 3 was a couple of years late on that forecast. And volume 4???

I would suggest that you too write to the Society of Antiquaries. Their
website will give a few useful contacts.

[Rock Vacirca]

UPDATE from Amazon:

Hello,

Please be advised that we have a revised delivery date for the items you ordered on July 27 2014 (Order #***************).

Woodcock, T. "Dictionary of British Arms: Medieval Ordinary Volume IV: 4"
Estimated arrival date: October 22 2014

[Tim Powys-Lybbe]

Post by Rock Vacirca
Hello,
Please be advised that we have a revised delivery date for the items
you ordered on July 27 2014 (Order #***************).
Woodcock, T. "Dictionary of British Arms: Medieval Ordinary Volume IV: 4"
Estimated arrival date: October 22 2014

Interesting. Even the publishers think it was published on 1st Aug:
<http://www.boydellandbrewer.com/store/viewItem.asp?idProduct=14643>.

[Rock Vacirca]

Post by Tim Powys-Lybbe
<http://www.boydellandbrewer.com/store/viewItem.asp?idProduct=14643>.
for a miscellany of bygones: http://powys.org/

I think that was the anticipated publication date when they applied for the ISNB number. I had to provide this when applying for my ISBNs.

[Tim Powys-Lybbe]

Post by Tim Powys-Lybbe

Post by Rock Vacirca
Hello,
Please be advised that we have a revised delivery date for the items
you ordered on July 27 2014 (Order #***************).
Woodcock, T. "Dictionary of British Arms: Medieval Ordinary Volume IV: 4"
Estimated arrival date: October 22 2014

<http://www.boydellandbrewer.com/store/viewItem.asp?idProduct=14643>.

Boydell and Brewer sent me a proforma invoice including that the
publication date is currently set at the 16/10/2014, which must mean
October.

Happy days?

[Rock Vacirca]

Another update from Amazon :(

Hello,

We're writing about the order you placed on July 27 2014 (Order# 026-0129627-xxxxxxx). We don't have an estimated delivery date for the items below. We'll provide you with periodic updates on your delivery date, and notify you as soon as the items are ready to dispatch.

Woodcock, T. "Dictionary of British Arms: Medieval Ordinary Volume IV: 4"

One of our aims is to provide a convenient and efficient service but in this case, we've fallen short. Please accept our sincere apologies.


Oh well...

[Derek Howard]

Post by Rock Vacirca
Another update from Amazon :(
Hello,
We're writing about the order you placed on July 27 2014 (Order# 026-0129627-xxxxxxx). We don't have an estimated delivery date for the items below. We'll provide you with periodic updates on your delivery date, and notify you as soon as the items are ready to dispatch.
Woodcock, T. "Dictionary of British Arms: Medieval Ordinary Volume IV: 4"
One of our aims is to provide a convenient and efficient service but in this case, we've fallen short. Please accept our sincere apologies.
Oh well...

Received from the publishers Boydell & Brewer Ltd the other day in response to my enquiry about
http://www.boydellandbrewer.com/store/viewItem.asp?idProduct=14643

"We are expecting this publication to be delivered into our warehouse on Monday 27th October".

Derek Howard

[Tim Powys-Lybbe]

On 23 Oct at 9:22, Derek Howard <***@skynet.be> wrote:

<snip for brevity>

Post by Derek Howard
Received from the publishers Boydell & Brewer Ltd the other day in
response to my enquiry about
http://www.boydellandbrewer.com/store/viewItem.asp?idProduct=14643
"We are expecting this publication to be delivered into our warehouse
on Monday 27th October".

Thanks for that.

Can we wait for the last few days? Impatience is gathering at the far
corners of the earth.

But the last sentence of Boydell & Brewer's notice looks like a mall
operator's charter:

"Even those without a knowledge of the subject will be able, by means
of the index, to discover the blazon of arms recorded under particular
surnames in the Middle Ages."

Deliberate? Or were they just trying to wind us up to stimulate
interest?

[Rock Vacirca]

I got a letter from the College of Arms today, replying to my request a couple of days ago for a quote to identify a coat of arms that was not in Papworth, viz: Argent, 3 asses' heads couped gules. I was asked by the Herald who wrote to contact him at the College by phone during a certain week in Nov, or a week in March 2015, or April, etc.

The letter then had a handwritten annotation at the bottom:

"Since writing the above I have been to see the editors of the Med. Dict. of Brit. Arms, their Volume 4 is in galley proof. This was my sole hope. They could not provide an answer. So I regret that there's no point your being so kind to ring. What a shame. Warm Salutations...."


If the book is in galley proof stage I doubt very much if it will be published any time soon as the galley stage is for proof-reading, though some houses use the term for advance copies for review, so there is still a spark of hope.

Rock

[Rock Vacirca]

A depressing update from Amazon received today:

Hello,

We've cancelled Dictionary of British Arms: Medieval Ordinary Volume IV: 4 (Asin: 0854312978) from your order XXX-XXXXXXX-XXXXXXXXX.

Unfortunately, we're no longer able to offer this item for sale. Our supplier has informed us that it's been discontinued and is no longer available. You may find that it's still available from third-party Sellers on Amazon.co.uk Marketplace but I'm afraid we can't source stock from these Sellers.

We're sorry for any inconvenience caused and hope to see you again soon.

Regards,

Customer Service Department
Amazon.co.uk


How can something that has not been published yet be 'discontinued'?

Rock

[p***@gmail.com]

Still(?) available from the publisher...?

http://www.boydellandbrewer.com/store/viewItem.asp?idProduct=14643

[Rock Vacirca]

Post by p***@gmail.com
Still(?) available from the publisher...?
http://www.boydellandbrewer.com/store/viewItem.asp?idProduct=14643

I have given up on Amazon and ordered through Boydell & Brewer, they do say on their website Volume IV is 'Available' (has anyone received a copy?). I shall let you know how I get on.

Rock

[Tim Powys-Lybbe]

Post by Rock Vacirca

Post by p***@gmail.com
Still(?) available from the publisher...?
http://www.boydellandbrewer.com/store/viewItem.asp?idProduct=14643

I have given up on Amazon and ordered through Boydell & Brewer, they
do say on their website Volume IV is 'Available' (has anyone received
a copy?). I shall let you know how I get on.
Rock

My copy arrived a week ago from B&B so I now have the complete set
atanding tall in the honour point of my bookcase and they all and
particularly the last one are lovely!

Have 'they' now given up or is there to be expected a Post Medieval
Ordinary? And how long should we expect?