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Hi all,

I think there is an exhibition in Florence right now featuring the famous grant made by King Louis XI of France in 1465 to Piero de'Medici allowing him to incorporate the arms of France into his own arms:

http://www.unannoadarte.it/unavoltanellavita/galleria.html

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[Tim Powys-Lybbe]

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Hi all,
I think there is an exhibition in Florence right now featuring the
famous grant made by King Louis XI of France in 1465 to Piero
de'Medici allowing him to incorporate the arms of France into his own
http://www.unannoadarte.it/unavoltanellavita/galleria.html

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-AcUKXTka6CU/Uu_CyR1nUCI/AAAAAAAACCI/0k0W74OFwf8/s1600/Fig.+2.jpg

Most interesting, many thanks and I had to enlarge the latter
illustration heavily to see quite what it was all about, discovering the
Azure three fleur de lys Argent on the middle top roundel. This raises
in my mind the question of what arms these were that Piero de'Medici
cold now bear:

Were these the arms he was to bear in France, of which Louis was clearly
sovereign?

Were these the arms he was to bear in North Italy which Louis may have
had under his yoke at that time?

Or was there no sovereign authority in Florence to control arms in their
principality? And if so, Piero could do what he liked.

Or if there was a sovereign authority in the Florence area, what did
they say about a foreign sovereign trying to regulate matters of their
fiefdom?

[Peter Howarth]

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Hi all,
I think there is an exhibition in Florence right now featuring the
famous grant made by King Louis XI of France in 1465 to Piero
de'Medici allowing him to incorporate the arms of France into his own
http://www.unannoadarte.it/unavoltanellavita/galleria.html

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-AcUKXTka6CU/Uu_CyR1nUCI/AAAAAAAACCI/0k0W74OFwf8/s1600/Fig.+2.jpg
Most interesting, many thanks and I had to enlarge the latter
illustration heavily to see quite what it was all about, discovering the
Azure three fleur de lys Argent on the middle top roundel. This raises
in my mind the question of what arms these were that Piero de'Medici
Were these the arms he was to bear in France, of which Louis was clearly
sovereign?
Were these the arms he was to bear in North Italy which Louis may have
had under his yoke at that time?
Or was there no sovereign authority in Florence to control arms in their
principality? And if so, Piero could do what he liked.
Or if there was a sovereign authority in the Florence area, what did
they say about a foreign sovereign trying to regulate matters of their
fiefdom?
--
Tim Powys-Lybbe
for a miscellany of bygones: http://powys.org/

My interpretation is that, at this period, no one would have worried about jurisdictions. As virtual ruler of Florence after the death of his father Cosimo in 1494, Piero would have borne whatever coat he wanted to wherever he happened to be. A favour from the King of France was worth showing off, and Louis XI was looking for allies, having problems with his own barons and with the Sforzas of Milan.

Peter Howarth