Researching a Grant

[gregs talkin]

A family friend has presented an achievement granted to a Reynolds of
English origin and I'm trying to narrow down who it went to:

Barry of six: Ar and Az, overall a Portcullis proper. There is
mention of a crest : a fox statant Gu, head to dexter.

Any help would be appreciated.

[StephenP]

Post by gregs talkin
A family friend has presented an achievement granted to a Reynolds of
Barry of six: Ar and Az, overall a Portcullis proper. There is
mention of a crest : a fox statant Gu, head to dexter.
Any help would be appreciated.

Looking in the BGA the very first entry for Reynolds is:

Reynolds (co.Devon). Ar. a portcullis sa. overall three bars az. Crest: A fox statant ppr. Motto: Jus meum tuebor.

I can't see any mention of a Devonshire based Reynolds in the Harleian Society's "Grantees of Arms".

Yours aye

Stephen

[gregs talkin]

Post by StephenP

Post by gregs talkin
A family friend has presented an achievement granted to a Reynolds of
Barry of six: Ar and Az, overall a Portcullis proper.  There is
mention of a crest : a fox statant Gu, head to dexter.
Any help would be appreciated.

Reynolds (co.Devon). Ar. a portcullis sa. overall three bars az. Crest: A fox statant ppr. Motto: Jus meum tuebor.
I can't see any mention of a Devonshire based Reynolds in the Harleian Society's "Grantees of Arms".
Yours aye
Stephen

Yea Stephen, I found that as well. The question now becomes "which
Reynolds?" Why would Burkes list the grant by county instead of name?

I can't find this person and The College will want $600 for a search!

[StephenP]

Post by gregs talkin
Yea Stephen, I found that as well. The question now becomes "which
Reynolds?" Why would Burkes list the grant by county instead of name?
I can't find this person and The College will want $600 for a search!

As you know Burke's is not always that reliable. The less genealogical detail the less reliable the entry.

As far as Devon goes, I have delved a bit more. An Armory of the Western Counties published in 1898 has the following:

REYNOLDS OF DEVON: Ar. A portcullys sa: G.M.S.
“Reignold: Silver a portgoullis sable joignyd of the feld the chayns asure” Harl. MS. 4632

HARL. MS. 4632. An heraldic collection by Sir Christopher Barker, Garter, (died 1549). On folio 47 are “Armes of the Gentelmen of Cornewall and Devonsheir and Somerset” The coats are tricked, and eight are blazoned as well as tricked. Eleven shields have been left blank, but have the names inscribed over them.

I fear an exact identification will be quite a challenge.

[StephenP]

The blazon for the shield in BGA for Reynolds seems to be a direct "lift" from Glover's Ordinary of Arms (augmented and improved) contained within Edmondson's 1780 edition of "A Complete Body of Heraldry", Volume 2.

[gregs talkin]

Yea Stephen, I found that as well.  The question now becomes "which
Reynolds?"  Why would Burkes list the grant by county instead of name?
I can't find this person and The College will want $600 for a search!

As you know Burke's is not always that reliable.  The less genealogical detail the less reliable the entry.
REYNOLDS OF DEVON: Ar. A portcullys sa: G.M.S.
“Reignold: Silver a portgoullis sable joignyd of the feld the chayns asure” Harl. MS. 4632
HARL. MS. 4632. An heraldic collection by Sir Christopher Barker, Garter, (died 1549). On folio 47 are “Armes of the Gentelmen of Cornewall and Devonsheir and Somerset”  The coats are tricked, and eight are blazoned as well as tricked.  Eleven shields have been left blank, but have the names inscribed over them.
I fear an exact identification will be quite a challenge.

Hi Stephen,

Thanks so much for your help. I had searched several armorials and
came up dry, and then came Burke's . . . I am afraid you're right
about narrowing down the grantee and that's too bad. Why do you
suppose that such a notation as (Devon) would be entered into an
armorial? It seems so open ended as to not make sense unless it was
an earl or chief like "Argyll". Very strange.

And where did you find "A Complete Body of Heraldry", Volume 2 ? I
can't seem to find on online version.

[StephenP]

Post by gregs talkin
And where did you find "A Complete Body of Heraldry", Volume 2 ? I
can't seem to find on online version.

I've added a link to each volume to my Heraldic Resources page:

http://www.heraldry-online.org.uk/archivebookslinks.html

[gregs talkin]

Post by StephenP

And where did you find  "A Complete Body of Heraldry", Volume 2 ?  I
can't seem to find on online version.

http://www.heraldry-online.org.uk/archivebookslinks.html

Yes I have that link. Thanks for your help Stephen.