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Bourbon-Parma and Luxembourg
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Gary Holtzman
2005-05-09 01:29:33 UTC
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Forgive me if this question has been asked before, but I could not find it googling the
archives. If I understand correctly, the arms of the Grand Duke of Luxembourg combines
the arms of Luxembourg and the arms of Nassau. Would the grand duke be within his
rights to incorporate the arms of Bourbon-Parma as well, being an agnate of that house?
Has the grand duke or his father ever used the Bourbon-Parma arms? Thank you.
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Francois R. Velde
2005-05-09 02:16:26 UTC
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Post by Gary Holtzman
Forgive me if this question has been asked before, but I could not find it googling the
archives. If I understand correctly, the arms of the Grand Duke of Luxembourg combines
the arms of Luxembourg and the arms of Nassau. Would the grand duke be within his
rights to incorporate the arms of Bourbon-Parma as well, being an agnate of that house?
Has the grand duke or his father ever used the Bourbon-Parma arms?
The answer is Yes, he has, to both questions. See
http://www.heraldica.org/topics/royalty/nassau.htm#arms

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Gary Holtzman
2005-05-09 02:48:34 UTC
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Post by Francois R. Velde
Post by Gary Holtzman
Forgive me if this question has been asked before, but I could not find
it googling the archives. If I understand correctly, the arms of the
Grand Duke of Luxembourg combines the arms of Luxembourg and the arms of
Nassau. Would the grand duke be within his rights to incorporate the
arms of Bourbon-Parma as well, being an agnate of that house? Has the
grand duke or his father ever used the Bourbon-Parma arms?
The answer is Yes, he has, to both questions. See
http://www.heraldica.org/topics/royalty/nassau.htm#arms
Thank you for this. Silly of me not to have searched heraldica before posting! Some
follow-ups:

Why the use of a royal crown rather than a grand-ducal crown (coronet?)? Is this a
departure from other grand-duchies in the past? Is it related to the Bourbon-Parma
heritage, or simply to declare that in the modern world, the sole grand duchy is equal to
a kingdom?

Does Grand Duke Jean use the same arms as the reigning grand duke? Has he
reverted to his previous arms, mentioned on your site, or adopted new ones?

What arms are used by the Grand Duke's sons?
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Gary Holtzman

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2014-06-27 08:17:04 UTC
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Terribly sorry to bump an old thread; but Grand -Duke Jean uses the Arms he bore as reigning Grand-Duke.

Not sure what Arms are borne by the sons of Grand-Duke Henri, but; based on his stallplate, he used the Arms of his father differenced by a label of three points Argent when he was Hereditary Grand-Duke, but I have no idea if Hereditary Grand-Duke Guillaume has done the same.
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