Related arms for subdivisions of a larger entity

[RJO]

I'm looking for examples of related coats of arms that represent subdivisions of some larger entity, and were designed to incorporate some common feature that shows they are all linked together. If anyone can point me to examples I could study I'd be grateful.

For example, a state made up of counties might (hypothetically) have arms for each county that incorporate the principal charge on the state arms -- when you looked at one, you could see it was part of the larger whole.

Alternatively, a national organization of some kind might have arms of a particular design, and local chapters have their own arms but these are linked in some way to the main design.

In principle, this is perhaps like the general concept of differencing (or even impaling or quartering), but I'm not thinking of just taking the main design and altering it slightly. I'm imagining a system where the subordinate arms may be quite different, but incorporate some particular feature that shows they all go together.

And of course I'd like to see a fine illustration of them all together that makes the concept clear. :-)

RJO

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I'm looking for examples of related coats of arms that represent subdivisions of some larger entity, and were designed to incorporate some common feature that shows they are all linked together. If anyone can point me to examples I could study I'd be grateful.
For example, a state made up of counties might (hypothetically) have arms for each county that incorporate the principal charge on the state arms -- when you looked at one, you could see it was part of the larger whole.
Alternatively, a national organization of some kind might have arms of a particular design, and local chapters have their own arms but these are linked in some way to the main design.
In principle, this is perhaps like the general concept of differencing (or even impaling or quartering), but I'm not thinking of just taking the main design and altering it slightly. I'm imagining a system where the subordinate arms may be quite different, but incorporate some particular feature that shows they all go together.
And of course I'd like to see a fine illustration of them all together that makes the concept clear. :-)
RJO

This may be the reverse of what you are seeking but the coat of arms of Australia (1912) (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coat_of_arms_of_Australia) incorporates badges for each of the States which it comprises.

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Post by RJO
I'm looking for examples of related coats of arms that represent subdivisions of some larger entity, and were designed to incorporate some common feature that shows they are all linked together. If anyone can point me to examples I could study I'd be grateful.
For example, a state made up of counties might (hypothetically) have arms for each county that incorporate the principal charge on the state arms -- when you looked at one, you could see it was part of the larger whole.
Alternatively, a national organization of some kind might have arms of a particular design, and local chapters have their own arms but these are linked in some way to the main design.
In principle, this is perhaps like the general concept of differencing (or even impaling or quartering), but I'm not thinking of just taking the main design and altering it slightly. I'm imagining a system where the subordinate arms may be quite different, but incorporate some particular feature that shows they all go together.
And of course I'd like to see a fine illustration of them all together that makes the concept clear. :-)
RJO

This may be the reverse of what you are seeking but the coat of arms of Australia (1912) (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coat_of_arms_of_Australia) incorporates badges for each of the States which it comprises.

(I missed this reply earlier -- sorry.)

Yes, that's sort of the reverse of what I was looking for, but it is interesting nevertheless. It is quite like one of the early proposals for the Great Seal of the United States, which incorporated shields for all of the states:

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RJO

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Also...

The Arms of the Union of South Africa

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I'm looking for examples of related coats of arms that represent subdivisions of some larger entity, and were designed to incorporate some common feature that shows they are all linked together. If anyone can point me to examples I could study I'd be grateful.
For example, a state made up of counties might (hypothetically) have arms for each county that incorporate the principal charge on the state arms -- when you looked at one, you could see it was part of the larger whole.
Alternatively, a national organization of some kind might have arms of a particular design, and local chapters have their own arms but these are linked in some way to the main design.
In principle, this is perhaps like the general concept of differencing (or even impaling or quartering), but I'm not thinking of just taking the main design and altering it slightly. I'm imagining a system where the subordinate arms may be quite different, but incorporate some particular feature that shows they all go together.
And of course I'd like to see a fine illustration of them all together that makes the concept clear. :-)
RJO

This may be the reverse of what you are seeking but the coat of arms of Australia (1912) (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coat_of_arms_of_Australia) incorporates badges for each of the States which it comprises.

Spain too!!

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Post by RJO
I'm looking for examples of related coats of arms that represent subdivisions of some larger entity, and were designed to incorporate some common feature that shows they are all linked together. If anyone can point me to examples I could study I'd be grateful.
For example, a state made up of counties might (hypothetically) have arms for each county that incorporate the principal charge on the state arms -- when you looked at one, you could see it was part of the larger whole.
Alternatively, a national organization of some kind might have arms of a particular design, and local chapters have their own arms but these are linked in some way to the main design.
In principle, this is perhaps like the general concept of differencing (or even impaling or quartering), but I'm not thinking of just taking the main design and altering it slightly. I'm imagining a system where the subordinate arms may be quite different, but incorporate some particular feature that shows they all go together.
And of course I'd like to see a fine illustration of them all together that makes the concept clear. :-)
RJO

seem to think that a lot of English arms of political subdivisions have a st. George cross in the manner your thinking. Some arms of English knights of long ago supposedly have a st george cross or lion of England for the same supposed reason.
Moving on, the continent has cities whose arms include a cross of malta or of the templars to indicate affinity in bygone years.

I kind of like how Australia, new Zealand, and others retain a union jack to signify membership in the commonwealth. (Although NZ is about to ditch it, like the US and Canada.) And, yeah, not exactly what u asked...