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Marks of Cadency - Tincture and Placement
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Rock Vacirca
2020-06-15 07:58:26 UTC
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Hi guys,

I have the following blazon for the Robynson family of Thicket (Dugdale's Visitation of Yorkshire, 1665, p. 142):

Vert, on a chevron between three stags trippant or, 3 cinquefoils gules, an annulet for difference.

The coat is easy enough, but my two questions are:

1. what tincture should the annulet be? (Vert, or, gules, other?)

2. Where should the annulet be placed? I am tempted to place it between the two stags in chief if I have a free choice

Again, many thanks for any pointers on this

Rock (Wibs)
Peter Howarth
2020-06-16 05:02:02 UTC
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Post by Rock Vacirca
Hi guys,
Vert, on a chevron between three stags trippant or, 3 cinquefoils gules, an annulet for difference.
1. what tincture should the annulet be? (Vert, or, gules, other?)
2. Where should the annulet be placed? I am tempted to place it between the two stags in chief if I have a free choice
Again, many thanks for any pointers on this
Rock (Wibs)
Despite all the so-called 'rules' of heraldry, this is in the end a purely artistic decision. The fact that the blazon does not specify where the annulet is to be placed is an indication of this. For what it is worth, the heraldic painters at the College of Arms, when asked to paint my two younger brothers' arms (a chevron between three charges, differenced), put their differences exactly where you suggest, in chief between the two upper charges. With the annulet now on the green field, that suggests either Or or Argent as the tincture. But the choice of both tincture and position is yours - whatever looks good to you!

Peter Howarth
Rock Vacirca
2020-06-17 08:50:14 UTC
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Post by Rock Vacirca
Hi guys,
Vert, on a chevron between three stags trippant or, 3 cinquefoils gules, an annulet for difference.
1. what tincture should the annulet be? (Vert, or, gules, other?)
2. Where should the annulet be placed? I am tempted to place it between the two stags in chief if I have a free choice
Again, many thanks for any pointers on this
Rock (Wibs)
Despite all the so-called 'rules' of heraldry, this is in the end a purely artistic decision. The fact that the blazon does not specify where the annulet is to be placed is an indication of this. For what it is worth, the heraldic painters at the College of Arms, when asked to paint my two younger brothers' arms (a chevron between three charges, differenced), put their differences exactly where you suggest, in chief between the two upper charges. With the annulet now on the green field, that suggests either Or or Argent as the tincture. But the choice of both tincture and position is yours - whatever looks good to you!
Peter Howarth
Thanks again Peter.

Rock (Wibs)

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