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Lord High Steward of Ireland
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Sean J Murphy
2007-06-07 08:08:18 UTC
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Many are the unusual things one comes across in Wikipedia, for example,
pages on the Lord High Steward of Ireland and the Vice Great Seneschal
of Ireland at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lord_High_Steward_of_Ireland
and http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vice_Great_Seneschal_of_Ireland

It is recorded that the function of Vice Great Seneschal was assigned in
2002 by the Earl of Shrewsbury to the late Patrick Denis O'Donnell, who
also gloried in the title of Hereditary Lord Steward for Tyrconnell, as
well as 'succeeding to an Irish territorial barony' and 'a related
manorial lordship'
(http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Patrick_Denis_O%27Donnell). As before
noted, the Earl of Shrewsbury assigned in 1994 to Anthony Boada the
hereditary position of Deputy Lord High Steward of Ireland. The latter
title apparently was being offered for sale by Strutt and Parker in
1999. It would also appear that the Irish Registry of Deeds has been
used to give such titles a veneer of authenticity. While the disgraceful
role of the Office of the Chief Herald in rubber stamping spurious and
questionable titles has been terminated, it is only recently that I have
been able to document the part played by the Registry of Deeds. As I
indicated earlier, just as its 300th anniversary comes around, this
repository is in the process of being integrated in the new Property
Registration Authority. At present its records from 1708 can still be
searched for modest fees in the marvellous old Gandon Building at the
top of Henrietta Street in Dublin (searches can be ordered by post where
full identifying information is available, website
http://www.landregistry.ie/index.asp?locID=21&docID=-1). Of which
remarkable and hitherto virtually unchanged Irish archive, which we
somehow forgot to blow up or burn, more possibly anon in respect of
registration of 'incorporeal hereditaments'.

Sean Murphy
Irish 'Feudal Titles'
http://homepage.eircom.net/%7Eseanjmurphy/chiefs/feudaltitles.htm

PS It is said that seals on the original Registry of Deeds memorials
from 1708 do not contain a great deal of interesting heraldry, but of
this I cannot be sure as we cannot examine the originals, only being
able to order black and white copies.
earthquake
2007-06-13 00:37:00 UTC
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Post by Sean J Murphy
Many are the unusual things one comes across in Wikipedia, for example,
pages on the Lord High Steward of Ireland and the Vice Great Seneschal
of Ireland athttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lord_High_Steward_of_Ireland
andhttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vice_Great_Seneschal_of_Ireland
It is recorded that the function of Vice Great Seneschal was assigned in
2002 by the Earl of Shrewsbury to the late Patrick Denis O'Donnell, who
also gloried in the title of Hereditary Lord Steward for Tyrconnell, as
well as 'succeeding to an Irish territorial barony' and 'a related
manorial lordship'
(http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Patrick_Denis_O%27Donnell). As before
noted, the Earl of Shrewsbury assigned in 1994 to Anthony Boada the
hereditary position of Deputy Lord High Steward of Ireland. The latter
title apparently was being offered for sale byStruttandParkerin
1999. It would also appear that the Irish Registry of Deeds has been
used to give such titles a veneer of authenticity. While the disgraceful
role of the Office of the Chief Herald in rubber stamping spurious and
questionable titles has been terminated, it is only recently that I have
been able to document the part played by the Registry of Deeds. As I
indicated earlier, just as its 300th anniversary comes around, this
repository is in the process of being integrated in the new Property
Registration Authority. At present its records from 1708 can still be
searched for modest fees in the marvellous old Gandon Building at the
top of Henrietta Street in Dublin (searches can be ordered by post where
full identifying information is available, websitehttp://www.landregistry.ie/index.asp?locID=21&docID=-1). Of which
remarkable and hitherto virtually unchanged Irish archive, which we
somehow forgot to blow up or burn, more possibly anon in respect of
registration of 'incorporeal hereditaments'.
Sean Murphy
Irish 'Feudal Titles'http://homepage.eircom.net/%7Eseanjmurphy/chiefs/feudaltitles.htm
PS It is said that seals on the original Registry of Deeds memorials
from 1708 do not contain a great deal of interesting heraldry, but of
this I cannot be sure as we cannot examine the originals, only being
able to order black and white copies.
In relation, perhaps remote... has anyone seen the prices paid for
titles offered via auction by Strutt & Parker recently?

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